Martha Williams April 2, 2020 Culture Shift Podcast/Videocast, Episode 03: Aversions to Creativity and the Way Forward, With Creative Economist Neil Ramsay Martha Williams April 2, 2020 Neil Ramsay, Creative Economist, talks about how othering, uncertainty (risk aversion) and siloing keeps us locked in sameness and how creative shifts in thinking can help solve problems. What if we all took the perspective “I am you.”